Inside the Magic Circle
Arthouse table top role-playing games are like a laboratory of emotions: Interview with anto_nie and Orin Rodriguez about games that teach us how to be together

© Viktorie Macánová
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Dungeons and Dragons is a collective storytelling game that allows players to collectively imagine a better present, to process emotionally challenging situations such as death or various forms of discrimination in a controlled gaming environment, or to explore ways of breaking away from social norms. Gaming principles are seeping into the visual arts and theater, and there are game design studios at art academies. Listen to an interview with Orin Rodriguez and anto_nie, who connect board games with artistic practice.
This episode of the Raut podcast is a summer special—the second half of the two-hour episode consists of an audio recording of the role-playing board game Potvory, which anto_nie co-created with Maxim Shchapov as part of her thesis at the Vienna Academy.
Raut is an intersectional discussion podcast about contemporary art and culture produced by the tranzit.cz publishing house and initiative for contemporary art in collaboration with the online daily Alarm. The new series is moderated by Ester Grohová and Nela Pietrová and continues the debate on contemporary art from perspectives that might at first glance be unrelated to art or are on the margins of social discussion. The first series was released in 2021/22 and was moderated by Agáta Hrnčířová and Max Dvořák.
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Credits
Hosts: Ester Grohová & Nela Pietrová
Dramaturgy & Production: Max Dvořák
Sound Design: Ester Grohová
Mastering: Ondřej Holý
Visual Identity: Day Shift Office & Viktorie Macánová
Food Design: Bláznivé bruschetty (Anna Kameníková, Natálie Košťálová, Františka Malasková) & Barbora Gábová
Publisher: tranzit.cz in cooperation with Alarm